Fonality and Kerry what is goin on?

i read about this on freepbx forum and elastix forum. i am not much for pollitics, but if the accusations are true this will be very disapointing behavior. there is definatley some TURF war in the asterisk community at the momnet and the percived bad guy is Fonality .I more than anybody appreciate that that Fonality is a business and a business that needs to make money , i think that the Trixbox users have forgot this a long long time ago ! this does not excuse the negative and deceitful comments about asterisk alumi , i suppose the big question is what can i do about this (or you as an individual) the short answer is nothing! trixbox CE is Free and so is the forums. in fact all the forums and opther products are free so i just take what i need and ignore the propaganda. - Unfortunatly this attitude Healthy for the community ,and without a healthy community of contributors and supports projects like trixbox fill eventually disapear. the only reason Fonality supports Trixbox is to make money ie upselling to trixbox-pro , or upselling any of the other wonderfull fonality products, once the community stops supporting Trixbox then there is no incentive for Fonality to support it either.. pity is this all starts to unravel becasue of politics.

I jumped to conclusions that someone had been trying to mess with me when the truth was so much simpler. A friend of mine posted it from my house and had used the gpllaw account before to bag on elastix and had even done it to me so I wouldnt think it was him. We were all at my house discussing the situation on that Friday and he posted to the FreePBX forums while sitting right next to me. He has explained that to the people here at Fonality as well. We are not going to keep hashing this out as people are only going to believe what they choose to and some people will keep posting about it simply to keep it stirred up because they are upset about us making changes to FreePBX.

Put your big spoons away and move on...........

JUMPS ON HIS DRAMACYCLE

DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

i meant immaturity

Birds of a Feather...

Caution: Objects in Mirror...

birds of a feather... you are all back doing the same old crap.

no - there was never any instigation or provocation, im sure

He wasn't wearing a silly hat.

Kerry:

Should you actually be telling the truth (and I'm very skeptical), then I feel that you should step forward and tell us just who this "GPLLaw" person is. Furthermore, we'd like to know why he or she (or even they) is (or are) galloping from forum to forum creating a ruckus. What's more, we'd like to know what they're doing at your house...on your computer. Seems a person with a history of writing groundless inflammatory content wouldn't be too chummy with Fonality employees either. We, the general (and consumer) public here have a lot of burning questions that have gone unanswered. You have (or someone you know has) ruffled a lot of feathers with the creators and users, et al. of FreePBX and Elastix...not to mention anything else we're unaware of. I think your efforts to downplay and disguise these issues simply implicates tremendous guilt on your part. We don't know what you told Fonality, if anything at all, nor have we heard any other official statements from someone besides you. Whether you believe it or not, this is actually a HUGE issue that requires everyone's attention. Fonality's outcome may very well depend on it. This matter has put your personal and professional integrity, not to mention Fonality's, in dire jeopardy. After the recent fiasco of Trixbox phoning home, the seedy details around acquiring source code of Elastix and modifying FreePBX, several people are growing suspicious. Personally, whether I think Trixbox is a decent product or not, I've stopped using it completely. I can't support you or the company you represent based on your activities. Kerry, it's time for you to speak up. I'd have more respect for you admitting your guilt than making a foolish effort to bury the situation.

Sincerely,

John D. Lewis
jdlewis@jdlewis.org

Kerry,

There's no need to put the spin on me-- you are discrediting yourself. You don't need me or anyone else to do that for you. Only you know the truth behind the situation. Point is, whether you did it or not, you're holding the bag. And yes, this does still put you in jeopardy. None of us know what kind of information you have access to at your residence and whether anyone off the street can walk in and sit down on your home network and see what you see. Not that I have any very private data stored on Trixbox's network (that I know of), but I don't want just anyone having access to my Trixbox forum password, my usage data, my name, phone number, address, or anything else. I don't need people soliciting or spamming me about my phone network and whom I maintain systems for. Until recently, I had Trixbox CE in service as commercial, production systems for my customers. Why? It was free, quick, and easy. I could have done it in Asterisk, but I simply didn't take the time. Now, I've had to make changes because I felt my security and that of my customers has or may have been encroached upon. And why? Simply because some knucklehead claims people are coming into his home and using his computer after "having a few brews" and "talking about GPL code". And you feel personally attacked? Sorry, but that's all your doing. You don't hear of big executives or directors of other companies just leaving their doors and networks wide open so any of their pals can pop in and have a look. If you don't want to have this issue hashed and rehashed, then simply clear the air...put a post on the site, somewhere outside of the forum so the general public knows they haven't been duped.

Sincerely,

John D. Lewis
jdlewis@jdlewis.org

4 days without a flame I knew it couldn't last...

This all reminds me allot of those folks who go to the same restaurant every other day and get the same bad service. then they complain about every time they come in blah blah blah.... I was a restaurant manager and I would laugh at these people for the simple fact that if you go to a place more than twice and get screwed its your fault.

1 time is them
2 times you
3 or more YOUR AN IDIOT quit going back

All these people come back and say why do you keep doing this these guys over here dont do that those guys work why why wahhhhhhhh!!!!!

If you think fonality is hell and trixbox is the pitch fork and kerry is the devil then stop coming back. Go to those guys "who work" and are "perfect" isn't it better to use them anyway. Seriously if your only purpose to be here is to bag on people and not be constructive your just a troll and serve no purpose and if you remain using a product or a company that is as evil as you portray then YOUR AN IDIOT and everyone sees that.

ADDMan/jahyde:

I think Trixbox is a decent product. Truly, I do. I have grown skeptical of the business behind it, and some of its people, but that doesn't mean the product in and of itself lacks. I know they want to make money. And so be it, that's free enterprise and I'm glad they're out there doing it. However, there's more than meets the eye here. My customers, my company, and myself have a lot of money tied up in VoIP. I have friends that are in the same line of work and doing a lot of great things with VoIP...with Trixbox too. There are a lot of people out there, and some of them who read the forums here, who want to know what's going on. I'm not here to "bag on people" or flame people. I'm simply here to find out the truth. And if neither of you care, that's fine. Some of us are in a high stakes game here. I see problems with ethics, security, and everything else. So, if Kerry is being honest, he's a fool for letting people use his network. And if he's not being honest, I still have plenty to worry about. Either way, this changes my business strategies too. Paranoid? No. Cautious? Yes. You'd take on the same measures if you were in the same line of business.

Regards,

John

jdlewis, you are a dumb *doodoohead*. Shut ^ never post in this forum again!!! kerryg block his *bottom*!!! He is an idot!!!!!!!

KG: Edited for language issues

this *should* be an open forum where people are allowed to voice their opinions - that would be rather hypocritical of several other "goings-ons".

Johns comments dont help, but that kind of response to his comments is the elevated desparation i was referring to.

I stopped using the product itself completely. I made no remarks about the site. I'm here out of sheer interest.

that stuff is marketing fluff, this thread is bad advertising against that, whether it is true or not, it puts a negative aspect on the product. there definitely is some substance to it, and argueing that there is not, well that only goes to further emphasize the point, yes causing more desperation on both sides of the fence.

Clarification.
"I stopped using the product itself completely. I made no remarks about the site. I'm here out of sheer interest."

Oh... then I take everything back..... Hell no I don't! You must be bored. Call a couple of your buddies over for a few beers. But first lock you computers in the closet disconnect your internet connection at the pole and take each of their cell phones from them upon entering your house.... Or you might be able to imagine a world where people with different "takes" "views" on things can get together... drink a few beers... agree on some things disagree on other things. If you only have people around you... that are “just” like “you” then you have a inferiority complex. There is always one *jerk* friend of my getting me into *doodoo* (your still my friend STEVE). So what.... kerryg... I guess to clear this up…… we need a list of all of your friends a.s.a.p. NAMES-PHONE#S-ADDRESSES. background checks should be run on every one of them. Or just stop responding to such bs and work on the “wake up call” feature it might just help them out.

KG: Edited the foul language out

Use one of these if you don't want the Telco's controlling your thoughts.

its fun on the playground

definitely got me trumped there Ward