Skype and Trixbox

rrichiez
Posts: 525
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2006-12-07

I have read and there a thingi called syskee or something like that but it have to have another server up and running . My question is...Is there a way to get skype working on trixbox with ease?

please anyone tell me about your succes

rrichiez



cosmicwombat
Posts: 1173
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2006-05-31
At the moment, not really.

At the moment, not really. Two products in beta are Skype for Asterisk(SFA) and Skype for SIP(SFS) and when released should be the cleanest way to interconnect with Skype.
Connecting to Skype with Asterisk is only half the problem. The other half consists of business concerns. There is a good read about the differences between SFA and SFS plus a good example of the business concerns at http://blogs.digium.com/2009/03/26/the-rumors-of-our-death/

Also, the FreePBX team is an active participant in the SFA beta program and there will some demonstration and discussion at the next Open Telephony Training Program. See link in my sig for more info on that.

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Robert Keller - Chief Technologist at large
The VoIP Experience
Open Telephony Training Seminar



rrichiez
Posts: 525
Member Since:
2006-12-07
Officially or unoficiall

is there a hack? thats un oficial? just to try? skpe is loosing money there!

rrichiez



TDF
Posts: 482
Member Since:
2006-12-19
Have a look on Nerd Vittles,

Have a look on Nerd Vittles, Ward did something with running the Skype client on PiaF a few weeks back.



jvetro
Posts: 25
Member Since:
2007-01-18
I have it working with Skype2SIP

I have it working with Skype2SIP.
Works great for me.



nbsberlin
Posts: 46
Member Since:
2007-02-07
Me too with SiSky

works fine for inbound and outbound calls...

Their manual is pretty decent too.



nbsberlin
Posts: 46
Member Since:
2007-02-07
Repeat of older post...

after a bit of research I do have a fairly well working solution.
I did try several different apps and in the end decided for a "pay" software (I think it was around $ 15) from a company called "YeaStar" and it is called SiSky PE. The have a Personal Edition as well as pretty complex 30 channel Skype Trunking.
Only disadvantage is, it does require a Windows PC to run.
Besides that: set up a dedicated Trunk, and from there to any desired group / IVR / extension.
My Setup is: Skype => Yeastar => Trixbox => Ringgroup
If you need, I can send you screenshots / trunk configuration.



andrew
Posts: 1418
Member Since:
2006-05-30
Skype to SIP from Skype is working well

Skype to SIP from Skype is working well. We are testing it here. It should be released soon.



UncleWard
Posts: 357
Member Since:
2006-05-31
Where Are We Headed?

Has anyone noticed that all the current development seems to have shifted from open source to commercial. First, there was Skype for Asterisk. And now there's Fax for Asterisk. Pretty sad change of circumstances IMHO. We've provided two Skype solutions on Nerd Vittles recently that not only work flawlessly but they also won't cost you an arm and a leg. Building your own SipToSis interface to Asterisk is easy AND free. Or you can go the 5-minute No-Brainer route with OpenSky and Gizmo for $20 a year. So... my vote goes to supporting those that develop products for the open source community. That's what attracted most of us to this site in the first place.



qwell
Posts: 12
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2008-08-24
Ward, if you're going to

Ward, if you're going to troll, please try a little harder.

http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk/CHANGES



SkykingOH
Posts: 8081
Member Since:
2007-12-17
When something is priced as

When something is priced as reasonable as FAX for Asterisk (would love to see pricing on Channel Skype) and the revenue keeps the company viable that supports Asterisk it's a win win for everyone.

I fully support the concept of fee based enhancements. Not everything is, or can be free.

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Scott

aka "Skyking"



WebSmith
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2007-09-20
Community and/or Commercial
Ward wrote:
Has anyone noticed that all the current development seems to have shifted from open source to commercial. First, there was Skype for Asterisk. And now there's Fax for Asterisk.

Ward,

As you know, Digium has always had a two-fold mission. First and foremost, we're primary the sponsor of open-source Asterisk, and we take this responsibility very seriously. Second, we're a for-profit company that tries to provide as much hardware, software, services, support, training, and turn-key solutions based around Asterisk as we reasonably can. The basic premise has always been to use the profits from the for-profit side and use them to fund further development on the open-source side.

Your post seems to imply two things: first, that Asterisk development is only done by Digium; second, that all of our development has turned commercial. Let me attempt to address both points.

On the first point, please understand that while Digium provides a lot of resources towards the development of Asterisk (more on this in a minute), the community at large puts forth a tremendous effort as well. I remember when Asterisk 1.4.0 was released that Kevin Fleming said that more than half the new features came from developers outside of Digium. That's a great thing, and something we continue to encourage. Frankly, we don't want to be the only ones working on Asterisk. We respect and admire anyone who takes the time to make Asterisk better and then work with the lead developers (some of whom work for Digium, some of whom do not) to get the code ready for inclusion in Asterisk.

Regarding the second point, I think it's misleading to say that development has shifted away from open source to commercial software. If anything, Digium has put *more* resources into open source Asterisk, while at the same time worked on commercial projects such as Skype for Asterisk and Fax for Asterisk. I would think that from our actions it would be easy to see that this is indeed the case. Anyone who wants to can see just how much effort we put into open source Asterisk, as the development is done in an extremely open and transparent manner. Look at the Subversion commit logs.... look at the Asterisk development mailing list.... look at the Review Board.... look at the bug (and feature!) tracker. All four show exactly what effort we've made (and will continue to make) towards open source Asterisk.

That being said, let's look at the commercial software for a second. We do put resources into commercial offerings for Asterisk as explain above, as we believe there's a market for these types of products. Any way you measure it (whether you measure it in man-hours, salaries for developers, etc.) the commercial software ends up being a drop in the bucket compared to the amount we spend on the development of open source Asterisk. It should be obvious that in order for us to be able to afford to spend the resources we do on open source Asterisk development, we have to have revenue from a combination of hardware and software products. And to answer your final jab... Yes, there are free and open source equivalents to many of our commercial products -- which is great! I am personally very happy to see that the market for Asterisk-based and Asterisk-related products has grown to the point where there are lots of options to choose from. If anything, that gives you the flexibility to get the job done in a variety of ways, and to me flexibility is key.

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Jared Smith
Training Manager
Digium, Inc.



UncleWard
Posts: 357
Member Since:
2006-05-31
Ouch!

Easy boys. Because someone doesn't always drink your KoolAid doesn't make them a troll. This wasn't a jab at the Motherland. Nor was it intended to diminish in any way all of the terrific contributions which have been and continue to be made to the Asterisk project, but the topic was Skype. And it was a plug for people to first try and support available open source alternatives. Copy-protected commercial software certainly has its place, but some might argue that copy protection also says something about trust and the way a company views its relationships with the community it serves.



andrew
Posts: 1418
Member Since:
2006-05-30
More than one solution

There can be more then one solution to a problem and different solutions work better for different people. Skype is a closed source company that uses a proprietary closed source codec so any code that attaches to them must be closed source. The biggest advantage of Skype for Asterisk is more than just calling. It opens up the whole Skype API to Asterisk. At some point I should be able to have a BLF light on my phone that responds to the presence of a Skype user. Now that is worth paying a nominal one time fee per port for.



UncleWard
Posts: 357
Member Since:
2006-05-31
Apples & Oranges

Multiple solutions absolutely are a good thing. But there's a huge difference between closed source freeware (Skype) and copy-protected commercial software (Digium). Last time I checked, Skype software not only was free but so was use of their proprietary Silk codec. The commercialization and copy-protection both were introduced elsewhere.

Unless you've got a phone with dozens and dozens of BLF lamps, it might make more sense to open a Skype client on a user's desktop which will tell the user when every one of their Skype friends is on line... for free!

The other obvious unknowns are price per port (I haven't heard Digium use the term "nominal fee") and what constitutes a link to Skype. Does a company need 50 Skype for Asterisk licenses in order for 50 employees to monitor which of their Skype friends are on line with BLF lights? I don't see that happening in many businesses with whom I've done business... But I Could Be Wrong.



jjshoe
Posts: 74
Member Since:
2007-08-13
hrm.. Andrew, first and

hrm.. Andrew, first and foremost, I commend you on your response in this forum, to each their own is very appropriate.

Ward, thank you, you've given me the motivation for a new slogan:

"Trixbox.org -- Where kids come to throw rocks in glass houses"

-Joel

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Former Fonality PBXtra/trixbox Pro Developer
Former PBXact Developer



jjshoe
Posts: 74
Member Since:
2007-08-13
that sounds like an attack

that sounds like an attack on the trixbox project, when it's meant to be aimed at the idiots who constatly bad mouth one another when energy could be better spent working on a single unified glorious project. Of course while I'm dreaming I'll take a pony.

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Former Fonality PBXtra/trixbox Pro Developer
Former PBXact Developer



jfinstrom
Posts: 1959
Member Since:
2007-03-07
I was part of the VUC last

I was part of the VUC last week where Gizmos lead dude was discussing skype and there was a sense of universal wtf when he mentioned the price model. Now granted I have not seen the Digium pricing model but they seem to like the $10 channel thing at least with g729 and their t38fax deal. If skype pushes out this same price it is 10% of the cost. What needs to be remembered is in a commercial deployment you may not be able to get away with hacks you may need a commercial driver to make things happen. I remember my college came to my linux instructor and asked for a printed copy of all of his software. he had to print out 1500 copies of the GPL 1 copy for each app... Some times in the corporate world you just have to do things a certain way. I personally dont get the skype thing at all but since it is the new hotness my guess is we will see dozens more ways to do things but in the end you need to ensure compliance with the EULA for all components and sometimes it is faster to pay $10/channel then to do the leg work.

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rrichiez
Posts: 525
Member Since:
2006-12-07
10 a pop

10 a pop would be nice. liek a one time fee if your network card changes then you buy again. but they are asking for 20 a year. thats not includding what they are asking for the phone nunber and the min used to dial out. If this were to happen i would be thier first customer and would buy the number i need from them.

rrichiez



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